In this episode we take a break from Leviticus to talk to two friends of Mike who use the divine council worldview of biblical theology in a unique way – ministering to deliberately / ritually traumatized people (e.g., victims of human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse). For those who have read Mike’s novel, The Portent, sequel to The Façade, the name “Fern” will be familiar. The “Fern” of this episode’s interview is the real person behind that character, though Fern is not her real name. “Audrey” (also a pseudonym) assists Fern in this ministry.

Contact information for Fern and Audrey is available upon request at

Update:  Mike is raising money for survivors who want to work with Fern and Audrey, but who cannot afford the cost. Please read about this long-term effort and contribute.

Transcript NBP 68

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